New BMW Scooter

[Dave Ross]

#3123

This might be the next one, the C1-EE stands for Elektrik , yes that's German for electric. http://www.7-forum.com/news/BMW-Motorrad-Studie-fuer-urbanen-Verkehr-3033.html

[Anonymous]

#12885

BMW has resurrected the C1 as an electrically powered concept. It is part of a broad-based safety project conducted in cooperation with the European Union under the working title eSUM (European Safer Urban Motoring).The roofed scooter, which originally went on sale across Europe with a gasoline engine in 2000, was once touted by BMW as the future of urban mobility. It has a sturdy steel frame and an integrated seat belt, which allowed the rider the freedom of going without a helmet under strict European Union road-safety regulations. But after early quality problems and a lackluster 12,614 sales, the C1 was pulled from production in 2002 just as scooter sales across Europe began to boom.Although not planned for production in its current form, the C1 E--as BMW has christened its latest single-track concept--is among a group of new urban vehicles that BMW is considering for the showroom as part of its MegaCityVehicle project. That project aims to take on Daimler’s struggling Smart division with a range of affordable city-oriented vehicles in both two- and four-wheeled forms.Powering the C1 E is a 27-hp brushless electric motor that uses energy supplied by a plug-in 125-volt lithium-ion battery pack capable of generating 3.67 kilowatt-hours of electricity. The system is supplied by U.S.-based company Vectrix and has been enhanced by various components from BMW’s EfficientDynamics program.No performance claims for the C1 E have been made public. BMW officials contacted by AutoWeek suggest it will hit 50 mph in less than seven seconds and reach a top speed of 62 mph. Maximum range between recharging is estimated at about 55 miles.

[Xan]

#12886

It is not landed in NZ yet, is it?  🙄I just saw a very similar looking scooter tonight on the road.

[Dave Ross]

#12887

Thanks for translating that Dean.

[honeybear.2399]

#12888

Thanks for translating that Dean.

Do you not need a crash helmet?

[Dave Ross]

#12889

I think they have found a loop-hole in Germany. They weren't so lucky in NZ. I would not ride this thing without at least a jacket on, and some gloves.

[Dave Morris]

#12890

Thanks for translating that Dean.

Do you not need a crash helmet?

yup i would say so

[Anonymous]

#12891

Thanks for translating that Dean.

Do you not need a crash helmet?

yup i would say so

You need a helmet on a push bike so why would are law makers allow us to make our own decision if we wear helmets or not on this toy. Just think we could half the Police force if we dropped half these nanny state laws.

[Dave Morris]

#12892

Dean. I have no problem if you any person does want to wear a helmet. I ony have two conditions that must be met. 1. Shoud you fall off and get a head injury, no hospital treatment, no nothing from the state.2. I/We not have to be the one to tell your loved ones that you are dead or seriously injured. Listening to them cry, snivvle or blubber, wale is rather annoying to our ears and we something we should not have to put up. Every time we contact them during the future investigation they cry and that really does ya head in.

[Anonymous]

#12893

Dean. I have no problem if you any person does want to wear a helmet. I ony have two conditions that must be met. 1. Shoud you fall off and get a head injury, no hospital treatment, no nothing from the state. We have ACC plus what about smokers or back country snow skiing2. I/We not have to be the one to tell your loved ones that you are dead or seriously injured. Listening to them cry, snivvle or blubber, wale is rather annoying to our ears and we something we should not have to put up. Every time we contact them during the future investigation they cry and that really does ya head in. I still say it's up to each individual to decide on how safe they live there lives

We have ACC plus what about smokers or back country snow skiingI still say it's up to each individual to decide on how safe they live there lives

[honeybear.2399]

#12894

Dean. I have no problem if you any person does want to wear a helmet. I ony have two conditions that must be met. 1. Shoud you fall off and get a head injury, no hospital treatment, no nothing from the state.2. I/We not have to be the one to tell your loved ones that you are dead or seriously injured. Listening to them cry, snivvle or blubber, wale is rather annoying to our ears and we something we should not have to put up. Every time we contact them during the future investigation they cry and that really does ya head in.

Your quote Steve. " Sorry I only do Nostalgia"  👿 Re to many valves. Does lilfe stand still? 😀  Regards Phil

[Richard Kuysten]

#12895

You need a helmet on a push bike so why would are law makers allow us to make our own decision if we wear helmets or not on this toy. Just think we could half the Police force if we dropped half these nanny state laws.Every day on the roads I see riders of bikes and scooters dressed in jandals, shorts, T shirts, sneakers, etc etc.  In other words poor gear for riding on public roads.  If they have an accident (no matter who is at fault) and survive but require treatment it is another cost on ACC which translates to ever increasing levies for all.  I have no problem paying up because  one day I too may need some help.  But if more people took the sensible option maybe the levies would stop going up so I  wouldn't mind a few laws that had teeth and ensured riders were sensibly kitted out for safer riding.  Sensible you ask? ha ha take a look at the idiots standing on the beaches last week waiting to see the big waves  😐 

[Dave Ross]

#12896

I too believe in Darwinism. I call what we have here reverse Darwinism, the survival of the stupid. Unfortunately, a lot of people are not sensible enough to make the right decisions for themselves and need to be guided. But where do you draw the line. A lot of people would draw the line well before you get onto a bike. We live in a democracy (well near enough) and if enough people think that riding bikes should be outlawed, we'll be all driving cars. The idea to be aware of the risks and to avoid being excessively stupid when it comes to riding a motorcycle. You want to give the general public the illusion that we are all mature and sensible and know how to dress for the occasion. Hopefully they'll leave us alone. The thing is that motorcyclist tend not to have a lot of collateral damage when they crash. Usually it's only the rider affected and sometimes a pillion. Cars on the other hand tend to do a lot more damage to others. Just look at what happens when a car runs in to a group of people, or cyclists as has happened recently. So do cars pay a higher registration fee?Car drivers just have a much more powerful lobby than motorcyclists. Nobody seems to car about the pollution they cause and how they clog up our roads. Ban the cars I say... :-).

[Dave Morris]

#12897

how come some of you guys edit your posts. I know why hahahahahahaha

[Anonymous]

#12898

You can not make laws for the lowest denominator it's education. NZ is the freest country in the world and we need to keep our individualist attitude.  So what if they stand on the beach and watch the big wave come in they have a choice to go to higher ground or take a risk that's what freedom is. It does seem the older people get the more controlling they seem to become and I hope I remind my self not to follow but do my own thing. This is where I like BMW riders they are definitely not followers. 😀 

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