Heidenau K60’s

[Clive Lawrence]

#4286

Put on a new set of K60's about three weeks ago… big questions on performance and longevity. Cost: $690 fitted – new pattern rear.So, I've now done 1000k's of road work only, Welly to Palmy Nth, and found these are working well with very minimal wear so far. Wearing them in has been interesting. Had them fitted at Maidstone Yamaha (Upper Hutt); they may still have the firstset they got in for me if anyone in Welly is interested (21inch front, 17inch rear I think??). Anyway headed out in the heavy rain and lightening with new rubber was probably not the best move, they worked well clearing the water, and felt stable the whole time.Since then, I've been down and back a few times riding in light rain, fine day-time and night-time. With the only concerns being in the light rain... (mental note: don't take 65k corners at 100k's).Once I finish up on this course in palmy and actually get to spend time in our place in Welly, will be looking for gravel etc to see out they go.By the way, there is some road noise and extra vibration. However cancel the vibration out with a bit more wrist 😀 and I've now started wearing ear plugs so don't hear the road noise (Ear plugs were to save what hearing I have left, not  because of the tires)Will put some more in info on as I go. Fingers crossed they go the 20k they claim.Dave W... now back in Wellington.

[Dave Ross]

#17665

Thanks for the report. I went for a set of Shinko 705, this time the radials. I think I've paid $450 for the set. Have done about 4000km on them and they've been really good. I had Anakees for the last few years and while they are possibly better on the road, they are not as good on gravel as the Shinko. The tread on the Shinko seems to go further around, as I have not been able to ride them to the  edge. Did you have yours fitted to the 1150? If so, the front is a 19", not a 21". Unless of course, your bike is modified.

[Clive Lawrence]

#17666

Yep had a set fitted to mine… 19″ front, 17″ rear… they ordered the wrong size in to start with. Which may be of help to someone else get a set for $490.I've had Tourance and Trail Attacks prior to this. Enjoy the grip on the road, but haven't had as much as I would have liked off the road.Will see how it goes.

[Anonymous]

#17667

There are 3-4 different tread patterns for the K60, depending on size. It's likely you actually have the K60 Scout, if you're using a 110/80/19 and 150/70/17.One of the few middle of the road tyres, somewhat Ok for both gravel and other adventure riding, while giving life on sealed roads as well. The solid centre strip makes purchase in clay etc hard work, not really biting down, and they are also horrible in wet slippery conditions, with not a lot of grip available.The deep grooves do mean aquaplaning should be almost impossible, and I haven't found out how long they last, but they should be good for 10k+. I'd still choose them as an all roads answer, with a bit of capability everywhere, but for demanding riding, I'll take a tyre more suited to that terrain.

[Mark]

#17668

HII fitted a rear K60 to my F800gs and have put on 3000kms of all types of riding, I have found these to be reasonable in gravel, good on dry seal and not so good in the wet, I was on h/wy16 on monday  heading hme to whangarei in shit wet weather  and the bike decided to do a massive slide for no reason  on me quite scary but survived so do be careful as theres no warnings. I am now thinking of changing it to a more of a road tyre but not sure what .Dose any one have any sugestions.darryl

[Richard Kuysten]

#17669

Have Anakees on mine Darryl with no problems, they were on when I bought it and I see no reason to change. Good on the seal and no probs on metal of varying conditions and in the Riverhead in dry conditions.  Rode on Tourances when I had the 1200 and they too were good reliable tyres. HTH.

[Dave Ross]

#17670

the bike decided to do a massive slide for no reason 

There is always a reason. Usually to do with the road surface. This time of the year it can be cow shit from stock trucks, diesel or just the odd shiny patch. As far as I know, they have not yet invented a tire that can cope with these conditions. When it's wet, ride to the conditions, as they say.

[Anonymous]

#17671

I am now thinking of changing it to a more of a road tyre but not sure what .Dose any one have any sugestions.

darryl, I know the F800 has different sizes to the bigger 1200 (my experience is here), but it does depend what sort of riding you want to do. For a mix of gravel and road, then the K60 is probably a good choice, as the TKC is definitely not happy in the wet.If more road biased, seriously consider the Anakee 3. Newly released, I'm working my way through a set now, and suspect I've found my new happy tyre. Very much a road biased tyre 80-20 or 90-10, with a very curious pattern, but bugger me, fantastic grip on the road, with some big grooves that are better than a road tyre on gravel.

[Anonymous]

#17672

When it's wet, ride to the conditions, as they say.

To be fair Koko, I've done a few km in all conditions (Ok, bar snow, but I've had ice) on a wide range of tyres. The K60 made me bloody nervous in the wet, losing grip more than most tyres I've used, in more circumstances.All out best wet weather tyre for me is the Michelin Pilot Road 3, THAT grips in pretty much anything.

[Dave Ross]

#17673

I don't doubt that not all tyre are created equal, but there are people who blame their tyres for all sorts of short comings. I ride every day, rain or shine, on all sorts of surfaces. Only a couple of weeks ago the whole bloody road was covered in rainbow colours for over 10km, before I turned off.  That was during rain and in the dark. You've got to be careful and take it easy. Thinking that you've got a good tire, and therefore nothing will happen is the wrong approach. I've ridden my Kenda 760 in the rain for many km and they are brilliant at avoiding hydro planing, if nothing else. I worry more about using the throttle carefully and about balancing myself properly on the bike, than about the tyres. Having said that, I'd rather ride on gravel than on the road, when it's wet. Anyway, should you not be out policing pictures quotes and sizes? At least I can see where the priorities are, foul language or obnoxious behaviour doesn't seem to be one of them.

[Mark]

#17674

thanks guys I too have ridden bikes on all types of tyres and road conditions but the heidenau is not as good as others rave on them and koko your right about riding too the conditions now I know that this tyre is not one I can rely on I'm sure I will be slowing down .Really I was hoping to here from others who have tried these tyres and to see what others are using on the F800gs

[Mark]

#17675

Put on a new set of K60's about three weeks ago... big questions on performance and longevity. Cost: $690 fitted - new pattern rear.So, I've now done 1000k's of road work only, Welly to Palmy Nth, and found these are working well with very minimal wear so far. Wearing them in has been interesting. Had them fitted at Maidstone Yamaha (Upper Hutt); they may still have the firstset they got in for me if anyone in Welly is interested (21inch front, 17inch rear I think??). Anyway headed out in the heavy rain and lightening with new rubber was probably not the best move, they worked well clearing the water, and felt stable the whole time.Since then, I've been down and back a few times riding in light rain, fine day-time and night-time. With the only concerns being in the light rain... (mental note: don't take 65k corners at 100k's).Once I finish up on this course in palmy and actually get to spend time in our place in Welly, will be looking for gravel etc to see out they go.By the way, there is some road noise and extra vibration. However cancel the vibration out with a bit more wrist 😀 and I've now started wearing ear plugs so don't hear the road noise (Ear plugs were to save what hearing I have left, not  because of the tires)Will put some more in info on as I go. Fingers crossed they go the 20k they claim.Dave W... now back in Wellington.

[Mark]

#17676

Hi Thought I would do an update on my Hiedenau rear tyreI have just done a 3000km trip from Whangarei to Cape Reinga,90 mile beach, down to New Plymouth,Whangamomona,and Ohuru on mostly gravel roads traveling at good speeds in all weather conditions and what a great trip even in the rain.back to Whangarei via Rotorua,Tauranga and home on sealed roads,  I had no problems with the tyre slipping or gripping as I was riding knowing it could.I now have 6000km and the tyre is more than 1/2 worn. I think the tyre grips better with it being more worn,not sure If I will put another of these on looking more at the Anakee 3 has anyone tried these in gravel.

[Anonymous]

#17677

Anakee 3 has anyone tried these in gravel.

Currently running a set of Anakee 3. For a road tyre, I believe I've found my new happy tyre. Outstanding grip in all situations, just have to see what life is like.As for gravel, ball park for the other 80-20 and 90-10 tyres. K60s are much better (as they should be). The A3 will get you through better than a road tyre, but that's about it.Don't make the mistake I did and spend a couple of corners wondering why the bike was wanting to drop into corners on it's side, and the rear wanted to be the leader. The A3 is not a K60 on gravel. Almost had to slap myself at my stupidity  ;D

[Clive Lawrence]

#17678

Update on my K60's…Seems wearing them in is good... have done approx. 5000ks on my set... Just got a w.o.f.  wear readings: Front - 7mmRear - 10mmNo gravel riding yet.  :'(They feel much better in wet or dry.

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