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  • Dave Morris
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    quite a bit of it sounds good to me but what about “Allowing home detention or prison sentences to be substituted for unaffordable and unenforceable reparation orders.” this is not explained well, who is gunna pay the victim reparation (as they are clearly out of pocket due to miscreants actions)  and the taxpayer is getting a raw deal giving said miscreant time in clink costing $$$s. They should have to pay reparation before any other monatary penalty eg fines when released. Also will give more teeth to assist in getting rid of dead heads from road who rack up thousands of $$$ worth of fines driving dangerous unroadworthy vehicles and unacceptable driving behaviour. They then drive disqualified and can take there cars when they offend. more than one way to skin a cat. Field Marshall CADE whats your views from your sheepskin covered armchairhttp://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10641886Courts bill takes aim at unpaid traffic fines4:02 PM Friday Apr 30, 2010 Licences would remain suspended until the overdue fines are resolved. Photo / Bay of Plenty TimesLegislation has been introduced which will allow driver licences to be suspended when people haven't made arrangements to pay overdue traffic fines.It is a new penalty created in the Courts and Criminal Matters Bill, introduced yesterday, which Courts Minister Georgina te Heuheu says will strengthen enforcement measures generally.One of its proposed amendments is to the Land Transport Act, allowing driver licence stop orders (DLSOs) to be issued against fine defaulters."Driver licence stop orders will be a new enforcement measure where a person fails to make payment arrangements for overdue traffic fines and reparation," the bill says."Eligible people will be sent a letter warning them that if they do not resolve their overdue traffic penalties within 14 days, their driver licences will be suspended."The DLSOs will suspend all driver licences held by people in default, including limited licences, and will also prevent those people from obtaining a licence.Licences will remain suspended until the overdue fines are resolved through payment or time-to-pay arrangements.Vehicles will be impounded for 28 days if people drive in breach of a DLSO.The Courts and Criminal Matters Bill strengthens collection measures for all fines, reparation payments and civil debt when people haven't continued to pay or haven't made payment arrangements.As well as amending the Land Transport Act, it changes the Summary Proceedings Act, the Sentencing Act and the District Courts Act.The main amendments to the Summary Proceedings Act are:* Allowing the Ministry of Justice to release overdue penalty amounts to credit reporting agencies, and allowing those agencies to give the ministry credit applicant information, to assist with fines enforcement;* Giving courts priority over secured creditors for seized property where the overdue penalties could have been discovered before finance was advanced to purchase that property, and these penalties are still overdue; and* Allowing home detention or prison sentences to be substituted for unaffordable and unenforceable reparation orders.The Sentencing Act is being changed to improve the operation of reparation and vehicle confiscation as penalty regimes.The District Courts Act amendments are to improve the operation of the civil debt enforcement process by streamlining the most commonly used processes - Orders for Examination and Attachment Orders."This bill represents the most comprehensive set of legislative measures designed to strengthen the recovery of unpaid monies in 12 years," Mrs te Heuheu said."It is critical to the credibility of the justice system that monetary penalties are viewed as a credible sanction."She said it demonstrated the Government's determination to address the high level of unpaid fines, and had taken more than two years to develop.- NZPA

    Anonymous
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    I find it extraordinary that a blue-rinsed government that doesn't have the testicles to take any action about booze has actually found the cojones to come up with this.Sounds too good to be true, but real good if it's for real.  Apart from anything else, it might be even more of an incentive for my offspring to stay in Australia, where they can't "borrow" out of Dad's toolbox.

    peter.trub
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    the beatings will continue until the lesson is learnt  😮

    Anonymous
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    the beatings will continue until the lesson is learnt  😮

    😀 😀 😀

    Jim Young
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    Shoot the b*&^^%$ds  👿

    Anonymous
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    I find it extraordinary that a blue-rinsed government that doesn't have the testicles to take any action about booze

    Do you want the drinking age at 20

    Anonymous
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    I find it extraordinary that a blue-rinsed government that doesn't have the testicles to take any action about booze

    Do you want the drinking age at 20

    For off license purchases, twenty.  Harsher penalties for licensed premises serving drunks.  Tax it right through the roof.  This is a drug causing as much economic mayhem as smoking, dak, any other recreational substance you like, it's right up there.  If they do push the price up, me being over 18, 20, 21 and 61 even, I will drag out my heat cupboard and homebrew gear. 👿

    Anonymous
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    I'm with you BwucieDespite all the nanny laws, New Zealand is the only country in the WORLD where you can legally own and operate a still.  I built this one 8 years ago and it was a ripper!  4 litres of 97% pure ethanol in about 6hrs.  I sold it and all the accessories to one of my junior engineers, but not without running off a few batches.  I still have some out in the garage somewhere.  I may have to start drinking it again.DTY5023.jpg

    Anonymous
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    We have only had Anzac Day and this was fighting for our freedom. Now we have all these Nannies who want to cut our freedom because of a few rotten apples. I support John Keys views of why penalize those who enjoy a drink and can control themselves may be we should have high tax on those who cannot control there drinking.Smoking is a different story as this effects other peoples health so tax the hell out of it. We are now well behind other countries with no smoking areas we were first in the world.

    Anonymous
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    Mrs Kiwi Adventurer here, have to take over this posting because I have so much to say on this topic.  I have to say I love the “still picture” and wonder if DTY is from the Deep South of the good ole U S of A?  Seem to remember that they were the masters of invention and during prohibition managed to produce some pretty fine liquor.  DTY is obviously now a true kiwi as it shows lots of inventiveness and a degree of cunning if he can get someone else to purchase it!As for the evils of drinking, I manage to see that on a first hand basis daily during the summer events season, when I get lots of little hell raisers wanting to participate in events but have had way too much juice and then refuse to understand why they are barred.  The police can only do so much.  Raising the age to 20 unfortunately won't prevent the problem it will just drive them further underground.  Higher taxes won't stop them either, disposable income means just that, they really don't care what the price is if they want to drink they will.  What we need is education, and from a young age.  Too late when they are 14 as they have probably already been drunk once or twice.  Parents need to take responsibility for their offspring and teach them social responsibility  - why is it that France don't seem to have these problems and kids drink from the age of 5 (yes watered down red wine does count!)We need to teach moderation, I mean how cool is the look of being draped over a waste bin every Friday and Saturday night!!!!  Our social role models need to step up and say its not cool.  Adults need to show by example, if we produce over proof liquor, drink to excess etc, how the h%%$$##@@ can we expect our children to do the right thing??Right oh rant over - can I start on the $2 toll now??!!!!!! :mrgreen:

    Anonymous
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    Good on ya Barb!Unfortunately, you can only have a still if you drink what you make.  Selling alcohol is still illegal.  However, I could probably give it away if the odd sack of sugar landed on my doorstep.And yes, I AM from the deep south...  of California!I think that raising the age to 20, though it's not the whole answer, will help the problem.  Most of the states in the US still have the drinking age at 21.  I agree the problem is with parenting and lack of supervision.DTY(damn, did I just get sucked in to a political thread?)

    Dave Ross
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    Maybe you should be renamed “Moonshine” Dave? I suspect though, that rather than drinking the stuff, you've been using it to fuel the R75/6. Hooking it up to your hot water system was a brilliant idea. Did you also install a third tap?

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