Bike re-registration – brake declarations

[janejohnstewart]

#4183

Does anybody in these parts know what's actually required to get a bike re-registered?With all of the chaos over the past few years, I've got myself into the situation where the registration on both of the bikes has expired and the plates have been cancelled.  I found this out when to took the 80GS in for a warrant this morning  ...  ::)The lovely lady at VTNZ Kerikeri told me that I needed to take the bike down to Whangarei to get things sorted out., but unfortunately the woman that I spoke to in Whangarei didn't seem to be 100% confident on what was actually required, however she did make mention of the requirement for a brake declaration, but couldn't explain what one was.After looking on the 'net I've found a few references old to the brake declaration, but I'm somewhat confused.Am I right in thinking that the R80GS does not require a brake declaration, as it was first registered (NZ new) in 1991?On the assumption that I do require a brake declaration, how do I go about getting hold of one, because one piece of info that I've seen suggests that there's a max hour's grace between obtaining the declaration and starting the registration process, and with me being in Keri and the testing station being over an hour away ... I'm less worried about getting the 1150 re-registered for now, but if anybody could clarify the situation with the 80, I would be very grateful.CheersJohn

[Richard Kuysten]

#17328

Hi John, suggest you call NZTA on 0800108809 and have a chat with them.  I have just done that and it seems your info is correct and you will have to go to Whangarei to get a compliance cert then a WOF, then apply to have the bike re registered when new plates will be issued.  Costly mistake mate  🙁 especially with two bikes.  I asked about the “brake” declaration and think this might be “break” as in broken registration period but if you call they will confirm for you.  Good luck.

[Anonymous]

#17329

non-continuous registration is the term, rather than “break declaration” (broken period of registation). depending how long the rego has lapsed and your ability to prove non-use during that period, they may/can sting you for that interim period (force you to pay as though continuously registered).only some of the main WOF testing facilities have suitable motorcycle inspectors who can "re-VIN" your lapsed machine. seems they treat it as a totally new inspection to check compliance with original manufacturers specs. have done this for two "as original"  small collectable Hondas (C50 & CB125) found in people's back sheds.be aware, that a discussion string about removal of BMW integrated ABS is currently on-going. this refers to brake certification where, as Bwucie noted, you need a low volume vehicle compliance for your "modified" vehicle (as per hot rods and other customs). hope this helps

[janejohnstewart]

#17330

Thanks guys,I'll give NZTA a call later to see if they can clarify exactly what is required.With regard to the brake/break issue, the woman that I spoke to in Whangerei mentioned about taking the bike into a local bike dealer to obtain the document, and that suggests to me that she was talking about the thing used to slow the vehicle down, rather than the registration not being continuous.  However that statement requires a couple of assumptions on my part.Malcolm, with regard to costly mistakes, over recent years I've made some decisions that have turned out to be spectacularly costly, so having to "re-vin" the bikes doesn't even count as a speed bump ...  ::)Black, with regard to the brakes on the bike, at this stage the 80 is stock, though I do have the adapter hardware to fit the Nissin 4 pot calliper but I'll be leaving that in the shed for now ... 😉The 1150 is non-abs, so there's no problem there, but I did fit braided (approved) brake lines before importing the bike into NZ.  Depending on what NZTA and the inspector say I can refit the stock lines if that's going to ease the re-registration process, again ...  ::)As a side issue, how many folks are the first owner of a bike that's about to go onto it's 3rd different rego ...  ;D

[Anonymous]

#17331

Pre 1991 you won't require a brake declaration.A bike after that, you just need a shop etc to have a look at your bikes brakes, they will measure your disc's and pads to make sure they are inside the right spec's, also check that your pads and hoses are of a recognised and legal brand. They may ask that the fluid is replaced with a NZ approved brand. Should cost no more than an hours work.Other bits that can trip you up are...Indicators/head & tail lights... Have to have the correct E/DOT markings.Tyres.... Have to have correct DOT markings (not "off road" use) etc.Exhaust... Also correct markings (not stamped for "race use only") etc.High beam dash light.Also a "confirm" from the Police that they are not interested in it.Some of these bits are not really needed for pre 1991, but it depends on the inspector as to their interpretation of the rules/law.  ::)With the bike being registered in NZ pre 1991 already before, things will be a little smoother for you than being imported now.The vinning inspection process is just like a slightly more stringent WOF.One bit of advice I could give is do not piss the inspector off, he can let something slide or absolutley ruin your day.....  😉 

[Dave Morris]

#17332

you really need to put them on hold. Can be done online.https://transact.nzta.govt.nz/transactions/LicensingExemption/entry.aspxsuggest you save it to your favourites. 😀

[janejohnstewart]

#17333

So, after speaking to the nice lady at NZTA, the story is …Initially, she didn't know anything about a brake declaration, but after speaking to her supervisor, she told me that the brake declaration is something that is associated with heavy vehicles.  For my part, if he asks, I'll offer that pearl to the inspector, and also offer that, my understanding is that the declaration is only required for vehicles registered *AFTER* 1991.She also told me that I would need to provide proof that the vehicle had previously been registered, and that an old rego plate or warrant sticker should suffice.  Both are currently on the bike, so that's a win.Finally I would need some form of ID.  Obviously I'll be carrying my NZ driving licence and she said that's perfect.When I asked her about a notice to say that the police have "no interest" in the vehicle, she said that that was not necessary, however that doesn't mean that I'm *NOT* going to get a bit of paper from the boys in blue ...  8)That's what she said!

Pre 1991 you won't require a brake declaration.A bike after that, you just need a shop etc to have a look at your bikes brakes, they will measure your disc's and pads to make sure they are inside the right spec's, also check that your pads and hoses are of a recognised and legal brand. They may ask that the fluid is replaced with a NZ approved brand. Should cost no more than an hours work.Other bits that can trip you up are...Indicators/head & tail lights... Have to have the correct E/DOT markings.Tyres.... Have to have correct DOT markings (not "off road" use) etc.Exhaust... Also correct markings (not stamped for "race use only") etc.High beam dash light.Also a "confirm" from the Police that they are not interested in it.Some of these bits are not really needed for pre 1991, but it depends on the inspector as to their interpretation of the rules/law.  ::)With the bike being registered in NZ pre 1991 already before, things will be a little smoother for you than being imported now.The vinning inspection process is just like a slightly more stringent WOF.One bit of advice I could give is do not piss the inspector off, he can let something slide or absolutley ruin your day.....  😉 

Angustini, thanks for adding weight to what I suspected / hoped, in that things should be slightly smoother with the bike already having been registered in NZ.  Fingers crossed.As I said earlier, she's 99.99% stock, apart from 21 years of "patina" and non-OEM service parts, so it would take someone with a very "special" 😉 interest in airheads to identify the only non OEM part that I'm aware of.  Having said that, even the non OEM part does carry the appropriate DOT mark.With respect to *NOT* pissing the inspector off, if I do have any talents, one of them is knowing when to  :-X  even when  >:(  😮 ???  ::)  :'( ... even if my blood pressure suffers as a result.  Also, because I know I'm going to have to go through the same process, again as and when I choose to put the 1150 back on the road, I want to pump the inspector for as much info as possible, and the best way of doing that is by getting on his right side.

you really need to put them on hold. Can be done online.https://transact.nzta.govt.nz/transactions/LicensingExemption/entry.aspxsuggest you save it to your favourites. 😀

Thanks Steve, have you got anything else to add, possibly involving stable doors or maybe spilt milk ...  😉Seriously though, please feel free to use my example as a terrible warning to others ...  ;D

[Mark]

#17334

Hi John I have just gone through all this for a imported r90/6 much harder as I had no paperwork.U will need to book your bike in for the day and it should be an easy process for u as its a nz bike, if u did need a brake cert it cost $80 form shaws in Whangarei the person who does the bikes at VTNZ is Linden.

[janejohnstewart]

#17335

Hi John I have just gone through all this for a imported r90/6 much harder as I had no paperwork.U will need to book your bike in for the day and it should be an easy process for u as its a nz bike, if u did need a brake cert it cost $80 form shaws in Whangarei the person who does the bikes at VTNZ is Linden.

Thanks Darryl,It's reassuring to hear from someone that has experienced the process first hand, especially at my "local" station.Yup, I'm already booked in for next Tuesday, and I'm hoping to be there when they open the doors.As I've said above, I'm hoping that the process will be straight forward, particularly as "Florence" is an NZ new girl, and also that I can avoid the $80 because she was first registered in 1991.Once again, thanks.Fingers crossed, eh?

[Mark]

#17336

If u get bored waiting come and have a coffee one stop model and hobby10 john stwhangarei

[janejohnstewart]

#17337

If u get bored waiting come and have a coffee one stop model and hobby10 john stwhangarei

I'll try to make time, thanks ...  8)

[janejohnstewart]

#17338

Just to draw a line under this one …I turned up at VTNZ Whangerei this morning and was told that brake declarations are definitely required for *ALL* bike registrations.Then, the nice young lady did some phoning round and Shaw's managed to fit me in for a quickie (oo, er missus ...  😉 )When I spoke to Jamie at Shaw's he said that VTNZ/LTSA or whoever seemed to change their mind regularly regarding the requirement for the Brake Declarations.So, all in all, the best thing for other folks who are concerned about rego's lapsing is to follow Mr. Bell's sage advice ...

you really need to put them on hold ...

Thanks for the assistance guys, and nice to put a face to the name Darryl ...  8)

[Richard Kuysten]

#17339

A happy outcome and good to see the forum being put to good use.

[janejohnstewart]

#17340

A happy outcome ...

Indeed ...  8)

... and good to see the forum being put to good use.

Definitely, it's good to know that there's a place to share info like this.

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