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[Anonymous]

#10424

So, summing up:The G450X is the ONLY non-Japanese, emissions-compliant, road-legal racing bike (with aftermarket chainguard fitted), available in white, which may or may not have the same problems that other racing bikes have, that's not quite double the cost of some other bikes that aren't 450s.The BMW wins again!And we're using the term "available" loosely, aren't we!

Dave you are always correct 😀

[Anonymous]

#10425

The comparison obviously excludes your bike as well.The BMW wins again!

You are geeting good. You could get even better 😉 The BMW 450 has the k1200 fuel injection The other bikes do not have fuel injection at this stage 🙄

[Anonymous]

#10426

Hmm.  Not helping your case for keeping the costs down and turning out a bug-free bike.

[Anonymous]

#10427

Hang on, are you sure about the lack of fuel injection in other bikes. I thought the Husky's were injected at least. What about the new KTM's? And the Aprillia is a fine looking bike.I think the BMW colour scheme could do with a tweak on the 450. White just shows the dirt too easily. Okay so many of them won't see too much dirt but still. I'd like black I think. Or even BMW yellow with black.You'll have to get BMW to put on an instruction day for off road riding. Now that they have a decently capable off road bike coming a day / weekend in the bush would just cap it off nicely.

[Jim Young]

#10428

The Yamaha is also available in normal blue but also in white too but must admit I still like the blue best, white shows the dirt and all the scratches.I wonder who copied who ?????  🙄

[Anonymous]

#10429

The Yamaha is also available in normal blue but also in white too but must admit I still like the blue best, white shows the dirt and all the scratches.I wonder who copied who ?????   🙄

This is a BM forum so I guess Yamaha copied BMW.Dean the guy that set up the F800 forum has also set up a G450 forum. Of course it's a little quiet right now but...  it may be an interesting source given time.http://g450riders.org/forum/

[Anonymous]

#10430

Hang on, are you sure about the lack of fuel injection in other bikes. I thought the Husky's were injected at least. What about the new KTM's? And the Aprillia is a fine looking bike.I think the BMW colour scheme could do with a tweak on the 450. White just shows the dirt too easily. Okay so many of them won't see too much dirt but still. I'd like black I think. Or even BMW yellow with black.You'll have to get BMW to put on an instruction day for off road riding. Now that they have a decently capable off road bike coming a day / weekend in the bush would just cap it off nicely.

BMW Australia is not and will not spend any money in NZ. They have stopped all sponsorship events and return to riding. Experience has talked about for years having some bike training. 

[Anonymous]

#10431

If BMW are serious about this machine as a serious extreme enduro machine then they should get behind a serious extreme enduro rider on it flying the flag around the globe.Chris Birch springs to mind. BMW spending no money in NZ? Do they make money from here? How do BMW riders feel about this lack of investment / contribution to the local scene.

[Arne Rohde]

#10432

If BMW are serious about this machine as a serious extreme enduro machine then they should get behind a serious extreme enduro rider on it flying the flag around the globe.

They are, and they already have some top riders. Simo Kirssi is riding it in various competitions. Joel Smets and Sascha Eckert have also been involved. Do a Google search for G450X and Kirssi and you'll find a number of articles and videos.However, I can't really see why BMW have developed this bike. It must be competing with some Husqvarna product, and would have fitted better with the Husqvarna range. I'd rather have seen the money spent on improving and developing the F, R and K bike ranges.

[Anonymous]

#10433

However, I can't really see why BMW have developed this bike. It must be competing with some Husqvarna product, and would have fitted better with the Husqvarna range. I'd rather have seen the money spent on improving and developing the F, R and K bike ranges.Fair comment. The bike does have the 650 for company. Does this mean we will see more in this range? So is this a case of BMW expanding the range as KTM did or more a case of BMW losing their way? I would have thought it better to invest in produsing a product that was idiosyncrasy deficient.

[Dave Ross]

#10434

However, I can't really see why BMW have developed this bike

I think the idea is to attract younger riders to the marque. However, in this case, it may be wishful thinking as young and money do not all that often go together. The other problem is, that they are not supplying the bike with a fold-out ladder. This will somewhat limit its appeal to people with standard leg length. A bit of extra weight will help compress the suspension, but I've seen Henry get on a X-Challenge and it wasn't really cool to look at. I can imagine situations where you'd wish that the ground was just a little bit closer, just before you hit the ground. They have not yet announced the seat height, but I am guessing it will be north of 900mm.

[Anonymous]

#10435

The bike is 121kgs it has high ground clearance. When you ride a trail bike you only have one foot on the ground. You can lower the bike down the front forks. Some do this to the racing bikes. This will make the bike turn fasterAs for the cost the kids parents will buy these bikes for the dedicated riders if they prove to be good bikes.If you are looking for the BM 450 riders its as easy as looking on this site. I think it is great BMW moving away from run of the mill bikes they have built.Husqvarna is a independent run company or should Experience be selling Husqvarna.We are talking about BMW Australia cancelling the return to riding plus the adventure rides as well road rides. There will be one BMW sponsored 450 racing bike here. It is the first bike to arrive and Dean from Experience is the rider.http://www.motorcycle.com/manufacturer/bmw/2009-bmw-g450x-review-82228.htmlseat 37.6-inches (955mm)above ground. My HP2 seat height was 36.2 inches Sitzhöhe mm 955 Motor Flüssigkeitsgekühlter Einzylinder-Viertaktmotor mit vier Ventilen, Trockensumpfschmierung Hubraum cm3 449,5 Bohrung/Hub mm 98/59,6 Leistung kW/PS ECE 30/40,8 Offen 38/51,7 bei Drehzahl min–1 7 000 9000 Drehmoment Nm 42,8 44 bei Drehzahl min–1 6500 7800 Verdichtung/Kraftstoff 12 : 1/bleifreies Super (ROZ 95) Ventil/Gassteuerung DOHC (double overhead camshaft) Gemischaufbereitung Elektronische Saugrohreinspritzung, digitales Keihin Motormanagement Abgasreinigung Geregelter Dreiwege-Katalysator Elektrische Anlage Lichtmaschine W 280 Batterie V/Ah 12/7, wartungsfrei Kraftübertragung/Getriebe Kupplung Mehrscheibenkupplung im Ölbad, Primärkupplung sitzt direkt auf der Kurbelwelle, mechanisch betätigt Getriebe klauengeschaltetes Fünfganggetriebe im Kurbelgehäuse integriert Hinterradantrieb Kette Fahrwerk Rahmenbauart Stahl-Brückenrohrrahmen Radaufhängung Vorderrad Marzocchi USD-Telegabel, Standrohr-Ø 45 mm Radaufhängung Hinterrad Aluminium-Zweiarm-Gussschwinge Federbein Öhlins Hydraulik-Federbein Federweg vorn/hinten mm 300/320 Nachlauf mm 118,8 Radstand mm 1475 Lenkkopfwinkel ° 61,8 Einscheibenbremse vorn/Scheiben-Ø mm Doppelkolben-Schwimmsattelzange / Ø 260 Einscheibenbremse hi./Scheiben-Ø mm Einkolben-Schwimmsattelzange / Ø 220 Räder Speichenräder vorn 1,60 x 21 hinten 2,15 x 18 Reifen vorn 90/90-21 hinten 140/80-18 Maße und Gewichte Gesamtlänge mm 2200 Gesamtbreite mit Spiegeln mm 806 Gesamthöhe ohne Spiegel mm 1475 Sitzhöhe mm 955 Trockengewicht/DIN Leergewicht kg 111/121 Zul. Gesamtgewicht kg 280 Tankinhalt l ECE 8 US-Version 7 Fahrdaten Kraftstoffverbrauch 90 km/h l/100 km 4,5 Kraftstoffverbrauch 120 km/h l/100 km 6,6 Höchstgeschwindigkeit km/h Ca. 145Weight s 121kg riding ready with fuell.why the US version has a 7 Liter tank and the europe tank 8 liter i don,t know.

[Anonymous]

#10436

why the US version has a 7 Liter tank and the europe tank 8 liter i don,t know.

Dave can probably answer this one but aren't US Gallons smaller. So could it be a case of either lost in translation or they have smaller litres as well. I'm just curious and I have no idea.

[Dave Ross]

#10437

I think it is great BMW moving away from run of the mill bikes they have built.

I wouldn't call moving away from German built boxer engines towards Chinese built singles, as breaking new ground. But you are right, diversity is a good thing.

[Anonymous]

#10438

I think it is great BMW moving away from run of the mill bikes they have built.

I wouldn't call moving away from German built boxer engines towards Chinese built singles, as breaking new ground. But you are right, diversity is a good thing.

The engine they say is built in Taiwan. I've been told there are better controls there for manufacturing. This is a democratic country so I don't have a problem with this. All of BMW small car engines are built in EnglandHow many parts on all BMW bikes are built in China. I am totally against this and there should be tariffs on all  import Chinese made products.

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